"... testing experimental self-driving software on public streets, despite regulators and industry experts repeatedly noting that the company is being reckless with lives. ..."
Some actual statistics would help here. YouTube videos do show FSD to be an outstanding and ever improving product. And Tesla Daily has reported multiple times that Tesla driven cars have fewer accidents and fatalities than other vehicles.
Help your audience understand. NTSB must have numbers on accidents per mile driven, Tesla vs other vehicle OEMs. The most recent iteration of the FSD software tracks vehicles behind, to the side and in front of the car. Incredible stuff.
What is needed is data specific to cars being driven with FSD or Autopilot engaged. Tesla does not share that raw data. IIHS data shows that EVs in general have a lower accident rate. This is likely due primarily to the need to drive at moderate speeds in order to achieve reasonable range. Speeding is a major contributing factor in accidents.
Additionally, and purely speculatively, EV drivers tend to be more mature and conscientious than drivers at large.
What we are interested in is the safety and reliability of Tesla's ADAS systems. Data about driver interventions and the time immediately following disengagement are as important as actual mishaps that occur while the systems are engaged.
Obviously, every fatality involving a Tesla is scrutinized. Have any FSD driven Tesla's caused a fatality? Especially recent iterations of the software.
Who knows? Tesla has a history of using NDAs to muzzle owners, effectively withholding data from NHTSA. Tesla has had to be bullied into recalls. Musk's personal animosity toward regulators of any Department is widely known.
Tesla should report near misses and disengagement/overrides per mile as well as collisions and certainly fatalities. To my knowledge they only report top line accident numbers. Is there any way of verifying even that? I have no idea. Does the EDR reliably record ADAS system engagement and actions? Again, no idea.
A Tesla runs a red light and crashes into another car, causing terrible bodily injury. Lawsuit is filed, charging Tesla with negligence. Being that the Tesla vehicle is recording all it sees and does, culpability is easy to determine. Simply roll the tape. Tesla cannot defy a judges order.
I am guessing all the way on this. But the fact that we, the public, do not hear of lawsuits and incidents like this tells me that Tesla driven cars, especially those where FSD is in operation, are remarkably safe and accident averse.
True fans of science, engineering, and invention do not fear the truth or make excuses for shortcommings. They work to improve their knowledge and understanding.
When you ignore evidence, choosing instead to believe what you wish to be true, you have have foresaken science, engineering, and invention for a religion.
Here's a multipart series about FSD Beta. First part is about whether it's testing from an engineering perspective. Second part is about safety. Third part is coming soon and is about whether or not it's legal.
the 2nd video is trying too hard to be critical of Tesla. Yes, Elon has been too enthusiastic and overly optimistic in saying the FSD software will be ready real soon. But you have to consider how many milestones have been achieved. Designing their own microprocessors, switching to pure vision, all the machine learning.
Robo taxi could drive people too and from work in the suburbs. And a robo taxi fleet would have remote operators standing by.
Back to safety, it is plainly obvious that a car that can detect and respond to hazards all around it will have a safer driving record than otherwise.
This is a great 2 video series. too much marketing speech passes for engineering in the Tesla world. Tesla hasn't had the pleasure of full engagement with the US tort system yet. Both Ford and GM have and don't care to ride that barrel again. Tesla would be wise to listen to Mr. Hikmet before their turn comes.
"... testing experimental self-driving software on public streets, despite regulators and industry experts repeatedly noting that the company is being reckless with lives. ..."
Some actual statistics would help here. YouTube videos do show FSD to be an outstanding and ever improving product. And Tesla Daily has reported multiple times that Tesla driven cars have fewer accidents and fatalities than other vehicles.
Citing Tesla Daily is absurd. No ML or autonomous driving expert will make the claim you just did.
Help your audience understand. NTSB must have numbers on accidents per mile driven, Tesla vs other vehicle OEMs. The most recent iteration of the FSD software tracks vehicles behind, to the side and in front of the car. Incredible stuff.
What is needed is data specific to cars being driven with FSD or Autopilot engaged. Tesla does not share that raw data. IIHS data shows that EVs in general have a lower accident rate. This is likely due primarily to the need to drive at moderate speeds in order to achieve reasonable range. Speeding is a major contributing factor in accidents.
Additionally, and purely speculatively, EV drivers tend to be more mature and conscientious than drivers at large.
What we are interested in is the safety and reliability of Tesla's ADAS systems. Data about driver interventions and the time immediately following disengagement are as important as actual mishaps that occur while the systems are engaged.
Obviously, every fatality involving a Tesla is scrutinized. Have any FSD driven Tesla's caused a fatality? Especially recent iterations of the software.
Who knows? Tesla has a history of using NDAs to muzzle owners, effectively withholding data from NHTSA. Tesla has had to be bullied into recalls. Musk's personal animosity toward regulators of any Department is widely known.
Tesla should report near misses and disengagement/overrides per mile as well as collisions and certainly fatalities. To my knowledge they only report top line accident numbers. Is there any way of verifying even that? I have no idea. Does the EDR reliably record ADAS system engagement and actions? Again, no idea.
A Tesla runs a red light and crashes into another car, causing terrible bodily injury. Lawsuit is filed, charging Tesla with negligence. Being that the Tesla vehicle is recording all it sees and does, culpability is easy to determine. Simply roll the tape. Tesla cannot defy a judges order.
I am guessing all the way on this. But the fact that we, the public, do not hear of lawsuits and incidents like this tells me that Tesla driven cars, especially those where FSD is in operation, are remarkably safe and accident averse.
Those blinded by hate cannot perform such a request because the cognitive dissonance would be too great.
True fans of science, engineering, and invention do not fear the truth or make excuses for shortcommings. They work to improve their knowledge and understanding.
When you ignore evidence, choosing instead to believe what you wish to be true, you have have foresaken science, engineering, and invention for a religion.
Here's a multipart series about FSD Beta. First part is about whether it's testing from an engineering perspective. Second part is about safety. Third part is coming soon and is about whether or not it's legal.
Is Tesla FSD Beta Testing Actually Testing? (Part 1): https://youtu.be/IAhNGygjPjs
Is Tesla FSD Beta Safe? (Part 2): https://youtu.be/sHyOL_vDQMQ
the 2nd video is trying too hard to be critical of Tesla. Yes, Elon has been too enthusiastic and overly optimistic in saying the FSD software will be ready real soon. But you have to consider how many milestones have been achieved. Designing their own microprocessors, switching to pure vision, all the machine learning.
Robo taxi could drive people too and from work in the suburbs. And a robo taxi fleet would have remote operators standing by.
Back to safety, it is plainly obvious that a car that can detect and respond to hazards all around it will have a safer driving record than otherwise.
This is a great 2 video series. too much marketing speech passes for engineering in the Tesla world. Tesla hasn't had the pleasure of full engagement with the US tort system yet. Both Ford and GM have and don't care to ride that barrel again. Tesla would be wise to listen to Mr. Hikmet before their turn comes.